Lady Bay - West Bridgford

11 May 2016

Spring public meeting




Present: 52 including RBC Councillors Richard & Sue Mallender

Apologies: Peter Hammond, Vice Chair, LBCA; Angie Dickenson & Alan Tiplady, Committee members, LBCA; Brenda Baxter, Lady Bay Arts Festival Coordinator; Susan Tiplady, Lady Bay Planters; Tony Middleton, Lady Bay Bowling Club.

Welcome: Sian Trafford introduced herself as the chair and explained that our former Chair, Lawrence Geary, is still unwell; we all wish him a speedy recovery; she welcomed all present.

Sian drew people’s attention to the “Lady Bay Art Collection” – the painting of “The Old Bridge, Lady Bay”, painted in 1888 by F. Mayfield; on display on an easel near the entrance to the hall. The painting shows a bridge over the Grantham Canal. The bridge no longer exists. It was purchased by LBCA and Lady Bay Arts at an auction which took place in late November 2015 when some the Rushcliffe Borough Council (RBC) art collection was sold. A print of the painting has been given to The Grantham Canal Society. The painting will be on display at a community venue during the Arts Festival. Please let the chair or secretary know if you can think of a suitable permanent, or succession of temporary, home(s). 07788 736468

Sian explained that as we have a meeting this evening which includes a workshop that will take at least an hour, reports from groups will be kept very short & any questions or comments should be directed to the reps of the various groups after the meeting or by contacting them directly.  


Sian introduced Claire Windebank, Operations Manager, Younger Persons’ Services, Framework Housing Association.

Framework Hostel, Trent Boulevard: Please see article in spring newsletter. Work is being carried out on the buildings. An asbestos survey has taken place and there is only a very small amount. The building company carrying out the work is Tanbury. There will be 14 bedrooms, a lounge, a kitchen, 3 bathrooms, 2 toilets & 2 offices. At no. 69 there will be 3 young people, fewer than originally planned.

There were many conditions to the planning permission & one of these was to provide a smoking shelter. This will be at the rear of no. 69. Other conditions are an agreed management plan and that hard surfacing should be porous. The building works will begin at the end of May and should be finished by the end of June. Young people will be moving in at the beginning of July on a gradual basis.

Residents have asked whether the original brickwork of the buildings could be exposed so the buildings don’t stand out so much. Unfortunately, it is too expensive to remove the paint but a more subdued colour could be used to repaint the buildings.

There will be 6 parking spaces at the rear of no.67 with additional fencing to give privacy to neighbours. Framework are discussing the type, position & height of the fencing with the neighbours that are affected. There will be improvements to the front forecourts to make them more garden-like with raised beds. Framework are hoping to open this garden area at the Lady Bay open gardens event in July. There will be an open day before the young people move in.

A community liaison group has been set up & the 1st meeting held. The next meeting is on Wednesday 25th May.



Sian thanked Claire & introduced Sam Hudson, Chair of Friends of the Hook (FrOTH)

FrOTH Report: Please see article in newsletter. The pond has been filled from the dyke & Lady Bay Primary School brought 30 foundation stage children recently for a caterpillar hunt & pond dipping session; they found fish & many species of invertebrates.

FrOTH’s AGM is on Wednesday 18th May at 8 pm in the Duesbury Lounge, All Hallows’ Church Hall. All welcome.

The next working party is on Sunday 5th June 2-4pm, meet at the pond. All welcome.


Sian thanked Sam & drew people’s attention to the Lady Bay Arts article in the newsletter The festival is on Saturday & Sunday 14th & 15th May 11:00 - 4pm at various venues in Lady Bay.;;


Sian introduced Julie Rosborough of Lady Bay Children’s Book Festival & presented her with a cheque from the Lady Bay Community Fund.

Lady Bay Children’s Book Festival: Saturday 8th October. There will be workshops including animation, drawing & poetry writing. Speakers will include an actor from “Diary of a Wimpy Kid”. This year there is sponsorship from Sandicliffe Motors.


Sian thanked Julie & gave a Lady Bay Litter Pickers report

Lady Bay Litter Pickers: Please see article in newsletter. Instead of group litter picks there are now volunteers cleaning an area of their choice in their own time. This year there are 2 group litter picks. Equipment is available to borrow if you would like to run a group litter pick. The Vicar of All Hallows’ Church, Rev. Mark Rodel, the student vicars & friends recently cleared the Hook. Sian is hoping to purchase more grabbers.

Contact: 0115 981 0364


Sian introduced Keith Wright of Lady Bay Open Gardens:

Lady Bay Open Gardens: Please see item in newsletter. The event is on 2nd & 3rd July 2-6 pm. There are 20 gardens so far for the event’s 25th year. Leaflets are being printed next week.

Contact Keith Wright, 30, Pierrepont Rd.; 


Sian thanked Keith & introduced Guy Ferguson from the Lady Bay Sports Ground Residents’ Group

Lady Bay Sports Ground Residents’ Group: Please see article in newsletter. The rugby club won their appeal against RBC’s refusal of planning permission for their marquee being in place for a period of 5 years.

The club have been operating within the management plan but they have been slow to extend dialogue with the residents’ group. The club have a number of other planning applications in the pipeline. It is an ongoing process, progressing slowly from the club’s point of view. There are about 1,000 people attending matches but the club is aiming for 1,500-2,000. There is still a problem with noise from loudspeakers.

See: Lady Bay Sports Ground Residents Group’s Facebook page.


Sian thanked Guy & introduced Councillor Richard Mallender

Neighbourhood Watch: Richard gave a short PowerPoint presentation. Early this year there was an increased number of shed break-ins in Lady Bay, mainly this resulted in bike thefts. The police have caught the perpetrators after a sustained operation in the area. At the time there was a lot of discussion about neighbourhood watch in Lady Bay. This used to be very active but has been moribund for some time.

The police recommend signing up to Nottinghamshire Alerts:  These are emails alerting people to things like scams; door-to-door or on the internet.

There is a W. Bridgford Neighbourhood Watch group which meets every couple of months. You can download how to set up a more local scheme from their website. A neighbourhood watch group usually has a number of people who look after a small area such as the road or part of the road they live on. There is liaison between the group, the police & RBC.

Information on crime prevention, crime statistics & crime alerts can also be gained from Rushcliffe Community website: Don’t be concerned about “rowdy behaviour” at the junction of Radcliffe Rd/Mabel Grove/Rutland Rd; it is the swans from the Grantham Canal stopping the traffic; the police have to record this & there isn’t a swan option!

Contact: if you are interested in becoming a road or area coordinator for Lady Bay Neighbourhood Watch.


Sian thanked Richard & gave an update about Lady Bay planters:

Lady Bay Planters: Please see article in newsletter. The new coordinator is Susan Tiplady. People can apply to the group for a small grant of up to £20 for compost & plants for their planter.

Contact: Susan Tiplady, 5, Fleeman Grove, 07950 668297


Sian introduced Lesley Taylor, Recycling & Education Officer, for Veolia at Mansfield Materials Recovery Facility (MRF)

Blue Bin Workshop: Veolia is a French company that started in the 19th century. In Nottinghamshire it is contracted to run recycling centres and the MRF. The MRF takes the contents of all the recycling bins (in Rushcliffe the blue bins) for the whole of Nottinghamshire. The recyclable products are separated by machines & workers. The recyclables are then sold to recyclers.

Lesley ran a quiz with items people might throw away and the choice of putting them in the blue or grey bin.

Plastic bottle tops & items like plastic coat hangers are not collected for recycling at the MRF as the plastic is too hard &/or too low grade. This type of plastic turns to a thick goo. Aerosol cans can be recycled; remove plastic lids but not the spray nozzle; this is dangerous as the cans are under pressure. Flimsy yoghurt pots of the type where 2,4 or 6 are joined together cannot be recycled. Food trays are also too low grade plastic. Aluminium food trays do not contain enough aluminium to be recycled & are also often contaminated with food. Paperback books can be recycled as can hard back if you remove the covers. Remember to remove the non-recyclable plastic lining from cereal boxes. Take away pizza boxes are too contaminated with food to be recycled but can be composted. Shredded paper cannot be recycled at the MRF as it clogs the lorries & the machinery. Shredded paper can of course be recycled at a recycling centre or composted. Some councils recommend putting shredded paper inside cereal boxes – do not do this! The machines soon separate the paper from the box.

The MRF produces 3 types of product: paper & card, plastic bottles & containers; steel & aluminium cans.

Some items that are not collected & sold by the MRF can be recycled, but the recyclers that buy the products from the MRF need them to be high quality with no contamination. The aim is to have 1% contamination or less. The recycler can reject contaminated loads. Common contaminants include food debris & carrier bags.

No company in the UK recycles carrier bags. Some supermarkets, e.g. Tesco, collect them & send them to be recycled in E. Europe.

To increase the level of recycling people can remove cardboard sleeves from large yoghurt pots & paper wrappers from cans to separate plastic & metal from card/paper. 


Questions & comments:

It is difficult to clean cans because of sharp edges

Just rinse them, a small amount of residue in an aluminium or steel can is not a problem. Mouldy food left inside is not acceptable.


Biscuit tins?

They are recyclable but too large for machines. Take to a recycling centre.


Councillor Richard Mallender mentioned that the county council’s new scheme for registering vehicles in order to go to the recycling centres was a problem for people without their own vehicles, relatives of deceased residents etc.


Cleaning spray bottles?

Remove spray nozzle, if the nozzle is moulded to the rest of the bottle don’t worry, place in the blue bin.


“Windows” on envelopes or cardboard boxes?

Fine but it is preferable to remove the film & put in the grey bin.


Ice cream containers?

No; plastic ones are low grade plastic &/or contaminated with food. Card ones are coated with plastic/wax &/or contaminated.


Take away plastic containers?

Probably OK if thoroughly washed. No lids. But may be low grade plastic.


What happens to plastic waste taken to recycling centres?

This is recycled but the same restrictions apply with regard to plastic film, polystyrene, low grade black plastic, hard plastic & lids.


Large recyclable items?

Wood & large metal items can be recycled at the recycling centres. Large plastic or metal items are too large for the machinery at the MRF.


Is there a problem with people who speak English as an additional language understanding the “rules”?

The main problem is that different county or unitary councils collect different items, some take glass or food waste from the doorstep. Even within the county the different districts have different colours & sizes of bins. This confuses new residents.


Why doesn’t Nottinghamshire County Council take glass in the blue bins?

The glass will break: contaminating the recyclable items with shards of glass & this is dangerous for the staff too. Thick glass is too hard to be put into the bring site glass banks.



Rushcliffe collects in a separate bag; this is not the case across the county.


What happens to the grey bin waste?

This used to go to landfill & caused leaching of contaminants to soil & water as well as greenhouse gas release of methane & CO2. Plastic is around for at least 800 years & the likelihood is that it will never break down. 10% of general waste in Nottinghamshire goes to landfill. The rest goes to energy recovery facilities in Sheffield or Staffordshire where it is burned at 800 degrees Centigrade, pipes filter the toxins out & steam is released to power turbines which provides electricity for 66,000 homes. Waste heat is used to heat local public buildings such as schools.


Lesley continued: in the UK only half plastic bottles are recycled. This is a great loss. 75% more energy is used to make new plastic products from raw materials than with recycling. Metals are infinitely recyclable; steel items from paper clips to bridges are made with 57% recycled steel. Aluminium from raw materials takes 95% more energy than from recycled cans.

Nottinghamshire recycles 43% of domestic waste. This puts the county about “mid-table” in the UK.

Collection lorries from Rushcliffe take blue bin waste to a transfer facility; the lorries don’t drive all the way to Mansfield. Larger, more efficient, lorries take the waste from the transfer facility to the MRF.

There is an “enviro grant” of up to £1,000 per year available to community groups, schools etc. for environmental schemes such as litter picking, planting, cleaning up an area. Requests can be made every quarter.

There are “goodie bags” for everyone with details about recycling (doorstep & at centres), grants, details of tours, a cookery book based on using up leftovers, etc.


Do you visit schools?

There is an educator who works at Nottinghamshire County Council who comes to schools to talk about recycling, but schools can visit the MRF & Veolia will pay for the cost of transport. Community or social groups can also come on tours, these are free.


What happens to the residual waste at the MRF?

This goes into the general waste stream but Veolia has to pay for these bales to be taken away. The cost is passed to the county council & therefore residents through council tax. It is therefore in everyone’s interest to recycle properly, both for the environment & financially. Mostly contamination is due to people being too keen and putting everything in. A common contaminant is used disposable nappies; why anyone would think these are recyclable is astonishing.


Lesley showed a short film about the process at the MRF. 0203 567 4391


Sian thanked Lesley & introduced Darren Howie:

Darren’s Story: Darren admitted that this is the 1st time he has been to a LBCA meeting as he has been studying hard since moving to Lady Bay. He has lived here for 2 years & will be leaving in June this year.

Darren told a true story that began in a council estate on the west coast of Scotland where there lived a little boy who received no love from his mother & had a father who was a vicious alcoholic. When the boy was older he was out on the streets, he used solvents, cannabis & harder drugs. At 12 he was expelled from school & was sent to an assessment centre. He lived in a children’s home for 4 years.

He met a woman & had a son with her. He struggled to be a good father as he had no role models. At a party he was offered heroin & became a user. He lost contact with his family, his partner & ended up homeless & on the streets. He was prescribed methadone & one day when it had been arranged for him to see his son, a needle fell out of his pocket. His partner got straight back on the bus & refused contact. When contact was resumed his son found him trying to hang himself.

He ended up in prison several times. He lost all self-respect. In prison one day a prison chaplain visited. The chaplain helped him with his drug addiction; telling him that he wouldn’t see him in prison again, he would be dead if he carried on; by then he had no accessible veins that could be used to inject drugs. After prison he attended a Christian drug rehabilitation centre & as a result forgave his parents for their treatment of him as they were also victims of the circumstances of their lives.

After rehabilitation he attended a Baptist church which was in a middle class area where many professional people lived. He became friends with a head teacher & his family. Previously he had had an “us & them” mentality & would never have thought he could even speak to people who weren’t from the same background as himself. He returned to the drug rehabilitation centre & volunteered for them for 4 months, giving drugs education in schools. He wanted to become a prison chaplain. He was dating a police officer but they broke up. He met his future wife when she brought a church youth group to visit the drug rehabilitation centre. Their 1st date was at a service station!

His wife offered to sell up her business & move to Scotland but instead they moved to Nottinghamshire; 1st to Stapleford then to Lady Bay.

The story is Darren’s own: He is studying for a degree & is part of the All Hallows’ ministry in Lady Bay. He loves building relationships with people & hearing their stories. He was told that people in W. Bridgford were “snobby” but has found Lady Bay very welcoming. He wants to listen to people’s views who are not members of the church. In Lady Bay people live busy lives & there a lot of families, particularly young families. There are lots of events in the area. What does Lady Bay need? How can the students engage with the community? How can they help families in Lady Bay experience connectivity?

Darren has been running a film matinee on Saturday afternoons for families with children. People have been sharing their stories at these events. As Darren & the other students are leaving in June it would be good for another group to take on the running the film afternoons. Perhaps the scouts/brownies?

Darren is moving to Derby to continue his training as a minister in the Church of England. He has loved his stay in the unique community of Lady Bay.

There was some local opposition to Framework’s hostel for young people coming to the area. Darren asked that people in Lady Bay invest in these young people living at the hostel. Darren’s life changed when he was welcomed by middle class people in the Baptist church he attended. Initially there was similar opposition in that area. One day he was speaking to a lady in the Baptist church who asked his last name, when he gave it she asked if he remembered her; she was a former primary school teacher & she apologised for letting him down; she had seen him as a problem; not as a little boy who needed help. 


Sian presented a cheque to Darren for the film club to purchase bean bags. The film club runs only in the winter months. Please contact Darren at All Hallows’ Church before 13th June.

Sylvia Wilkins, LBCA committee member & member of All Hallows’ Church thanked Darren & the other students for their input into the Lady Bay community over the last 2 years.




Scout Hall Update: David Rennie gave an update: The group have reached their £320,000 target. The new building will be a hub for all scouting activities as well as the whole community. It will be purpose-built & state-of-the-art, fit for the 21st century. Thanks to parents, the Lady Bay community, local councils & businesses. The final total was reached thanks to a donation of £49,000 from WREN Community Action Fund. Grants were also received from Veolia Environmental Trust, Nottinghamshire County Council Supporting Local Communities Fund & RBC. A generous donation was made by members of 6th W. Bridgford Scout Group on its merger with 1st Lady Bay Scouts.

Building work should start in early summer & be completed by early autumn 2016. Hopefully, the building will be open at Christmas.

Fundraising continues with the scouts providing a venue & refreshments at the Lady Bay Arts festival next weekend.

The future of scouting in Lady Bay is reliant on adult volunteers; please get in touch if you would like to be involved. See David at the end of the meeting.

Contact: Elaine Clarke, 1st Lady Bay Scout Group Leader, 0115 933 3001 Richard Mansfield 1st lady Bay Scout Group Chairman, 0115 981 0672, Regular updates on website:


Sian presented a cheque from the Community Fund to David for 1st Lady Bay Scouts.


Sian read out the following from Tony Middleton, Secretary, The Lady Bay Bowling Club

Lady Bay Bowling Club: “I am sorry I cannot attend the meeting; Sian has kindly agreed to update you on the current state of play at the Lady Bay Bowling Club which is a mixed club made up equally of ladies and men, & as most will know is situated off Pierrepont Road behind the ‘Poppy & Pint’ pub.

At the beginning of 2015, our landlord, the Rutland Sports & Social Club, agreed to extend our lease of the bowling green for a further 5 years until 5thAugust 2020. By June 2015 they had changed their minds and advised us that our lease would end on 5th August 2015.

You can imagine the upset this caused our members.  Many are pensioners who live on their own and rely on the bowling club for their activity and social life. We had believed, rightly or wrongly, that when the Rutland Sports & Social Club emerged as the new landlord from what was left of the British Legion Club, they would carry on as before; in fact their declared business plan was to continue to provide a place for local people to have a drink & a meal (the Legion building became the ‘Poppy & Pint’ pub); provide a place to play tennis (Lady Bay Tennis Club); a place to play bowls (Lady Bay Bowling Club); all as previously provided by the British Legion.

As a result of their refusal to renew the lease we were faced with having to close down our club which had been in existence in the same location in Lady Bay for over 70 years. We wrote to various people explaining our situation who we thought might help us change the landlord’s decision, believing that if the landlord wanted us out it must be because they believed more rent was achievable from someone else (we pay a Peppercorn rent of £1 per annum). 2 of the organisations we wrote to were the brewery who lease the ‘Poppy & Pint’ pub and in fact also claim to sponsor the bowling club and the tennis club. It was disappointing that the tennis club sent an email in reply saying it was nothing to do with them & my letter to the MD of the brewery was not even acknowledged. Whether these letters & various discussions we had with others prompted any interested party to withdraw in the short term is unknown to us.

The outdoor bowling season runs from April through to late September therefore our first objective was to secure an extension to the lease in order for the club’s fixture programme to be completed, this was achieved and we were granted a 3 months’ extension.  The renewal of the long term lease was our next priority & this was in part achieved by the eventual granting of a 2 years’ lease until November 2017. We received the hand delivered letter from the landlord about 10 minutes before the start of our AGM, at which we had reluctantly expected to wind up the club. Since then the landlord has made it clear that they are looking for someone else to buy/lease the bowling green who will pay more than we can afford. We apparently will be given the opportunity to beat any offer they receive. We are not a wealthy club & to pay a rent of several hundred pounds a year is beyond the capability of our membership so come 5th November 2017 the Lady Bay Bowling club will very likely close after 70 years of providing a bowling facility, initially for military personnel returning from WW 2, up to the present day, for local people to enjoy. We need new members. Please come along if you are interested.”


10 Acre Field Lady Bay Primary School has asked the chair to remind residents not to exercise dogs on the field as it is used regularly by children from Lady Bay Primary School. Every day there are about 10 people walking their dogs on the field.

A resident from Adbolton Grove added that young people are beginning, once again, to use the field for parties. Please ask your teenage children to leave the field at 11 pm and take litter with them. There was a party last Saturday. Late night parties are a noise disturbance to local residents & last year damage was caused when a bottle was thrown into a garden onto a greenhouse. Litter is another major problem for the school as broken glass bottles & cans which are later turned into shredded shards of metal when the grass is mown, can cause injuries.


Meeting closed at 10.07 pm