Lady Bay - West Bridgford

14 October 2015

Public meeting and AGM

Lady Bay Community Association Minutes of Public Meeting and AGM held on Wednesday 14th October 2015 at All Hallows' Church Hall at 8pm


Number Present: 61 including Councillors Richard & Sue Mallender


The Chairman welcomed all present. Lady Bay is an area that is full of talent and as well as our main speakers this evening we have present our local poet, Don Read. A poem by Don will be put on the Lady Bay notice board with a different one each month.


The Chairman introduced Wolfgang Buttress & Martin Bencsik.

The Plight of the Honeybee
Wolfgang lives on Trent Boulevard & has a studio on Rutland Road. He is influenced by his local environment such as the Hook. Wolfgang has worked in Australia & Chicago with Dr Daniel Bayliss, an astrophysicist, where he made respectively, a 4m diameter star map & the tallest building in the world to have an observatory. Wolfgang has constructed the UK Pavilion, BE-HIVE, at the World Expo in Milan though he is an artist not an architect. The theme for Expo is “Feeding the Planet”. The plot for the pavilion is a long, narrow shape. Wolfgang, inspired by the Hook, called his construction the “plight of the bumblebee”, as bees are a symbol of the planet’s health, affected by pesticides, monocultures & poor biodiversity. Honeycomb is a strong, efficient structure & Wolfgang’s construction works with nature. Wolfgang has worked with Dr Martin Bencsik of Nottingham Trent University, who has studied communication in bees.

Martin explained that he has placed sensors both inside & outside a British standard honeybee hive. These hives are usually made of wood & provide a dark cavity which the bees need for protection from predators & high temperatures. Martin also makes visual inspections of the frames. There are about 1,000 bees per frame & a visceral hum can be felt.

Honeybees have no ear drums so are more or less deaf, they are sensitive to smells & vibrations. Martin’s sensors pick up vibrations & he showed us a “vibration picture” of swarming bees. Newly emerged queen bees sound as if they are “quacking”.

In the pavilion the vibrations are conveyed into a colour changing sphere. Signals were sent for 6 months from a hive in Brackenhurst College, Nottinghamshire, to Milan. Wolfgang & Martin worked with some musicians; “Spiritualise” to create a soundscape with the bees in the key of D & a cello playing in a lower key. The musicians also used violin, piano, mellotron & voices to create sounds triggered by the bees.

A company in York helped to make BE-HIVE, the same company constructed the Serpentine Pavilion & the cauldron at the 2012 Olympics. There were 170,000 parts & 20 men worked for 3 months to create the building. The pavilion was ready on 1st May 2015. The pavilion has won 5 awards. Visitors walk through the “orchard” & the meadow before entering the hive. The meadow has vegetation at head height, sculptural elements & speakers broadcasting sounds from the British countryside e.g. crickets & birds. In the Hive speakers broadcast the noise from the real hive. Air rises up a natural chimney in the structure so that it is cooler than the external temperature. It is a multi-sensory experience with a very small amount of written explanation. The pavilion has had 2.8 million visitors, should be 3 million by 19th October.

A side project has been to place a swarm of bees inside a cello. The musicians have played at Langar Hall as part of this continuing project.

Questions & comments: How tall is the structure?

17m in height x 14 m x 14 m

What is the cost?

£6.5 million, cheap in comparison to other pavilions

What will happen to the pavilion afterwards?

It will be brought back to Britain. Only 2.5% of the visitors visiting the pavilion in Milan were British, the majority were from all over Europe & the rest of the world.

Where will it be in Britain?

Possibly London but it may come to Nottingham.

Will it be deconstructed to move it?

It will be taken apart like a giant Meccano set.


The Chairman thanked Wolfgang & Martin & introduced Mel & Guy Ferguson of Holme Road.

Rugby Club Developments Mel & Guy are members of a group that are concerned about developments at the rugby club. They emphasised that they are not against sport. The club was based in Beeston for about 120 years until ’06 when they moved to Lady Bay. The club have put up floodlights & relaid the pitch but played their first team home games at Notts County FC’s ground. In Dec 2014 a marquee, grandstands & floodlights were erected. The floodlights affected local residents as they were very bright & were brighter than they were meant to be according to the planning application. Now the club play first team games at Lady Bay & also hold other events; one of these was the “Varsity” games weekend which was a very noisy event. This summer the club applied for planning permission for a “temporary” marquee for 5 years. This was rejected. The club put up the marquee without permission as they said that there was a commercial need for it. Rushcliffe Borough Council (RBC) have placed an enforcement order on the club to remove the marquee. The club has appealed against the refusal & the enforcement order. The club has had discussions with local residents & have expressed their intention to build grandstands. At the moment 7-800 people are coming to matches but the club would like to have larger crowds. The club has applied to have 2 “temporary” grandstands for 5 years, they have already put these in place. The club has sent press releases to West Bridgford Wire & local newspapers & have sent a leaflet asking for support for their plans to houses in West Bridgford.

Local residents feel that the corner of Holme Road & Trent Boulevard is already heavily affected by cricket & football matches, the Robin Hood Marathon, outdoor events on the Hook & the Great Notts Bike Ride. The rugby club want permanent, larger stands to last for 20 years once the “temporary” stands have been in place for 5 years. The rugby club are not financially robust & are likely to be tempted to hire out both their stadium & marquee to make money.

Residents are concerned that the rugby club have not stuck to the rules with planning. At the moment there are 54 objections on the RBC planning website, 51(80%) from Lady Bay residents. There are also 317 supporting comments, 228 are from outside West Bridgford including London, Surrey & Hong Kong, 72% of the supporters live outside Lady Bay.

Mel & Guy circulated a sheet of paper on which people who wish to join the campaign could put email addresses. The group has a Facebook site - Lady Bay Residents’ Group. The group has regular meetings with the rugby club, the next one is at 6.30 pm on Weds 21st Oct at the Rugby Club Pavilion. The group wants to protect the open fields & the Hook; the land is in green belt.


Questions & comments:

If we want to support but haven’t an email address what should we do?

Put your telephone number instead.

Who owns the land?

A consortium including the rugby club & cricket club.

The chairman asked whether the people at the meeting felt that the rugby club is “a cuckoo in the nest”? A vote was taken with unanimous opposition to the rugby club’s developments.


The chairman thanked Mel & Guy & introduced Tony Middleton.

Lady Bay Bowling Club Tony was accompanied by Ann Aster, Jean Grover & Carol Stapleton from the Lady Bay bowling club. The club has been on the site for 70 years & was originally part of the West Bridgford Royal British Legion Club which owned the site. The bowls club members are mainly over 70 years old, up to 90 years of age. The West Bridgford Royal British Legion folded in 2010. Now the site is owned by the Rutland Sports & Social Club. This organisation has 6 directors some of whom were on the committee of the West Bridgford Royal British Legion. There are 230 shareholders some of whom are from the tennis club, bowls club & the former British Legion. The Lady Bay Lawn Tennis Club, also on the site, bought their lease. Castle Rock Brewery took out a 35 year lease on the main building to become the Poppy and Pint.

In 1946 there were 1,000 members of the West Bridgford Royal British Legion. In 2010 both the Bowling Club & the Tennis Club had about 75 members each. Rutland Sports & Social Club was supposed to preserve the Poppy & Pint, the bowling & tennis clubs. Rutland Sports & Social Club rented the bowls ground to the bowls club for a peppercorn rent of £1/year. Castle Rock Brewery sponsor the Bowls Club & have given them a small pavilion. It costs £5,000/year to run the club. Their biggest outlay recently was for £4,000.

The Bowls Club were told this summer that they have to leave but have been given no reason. It is not clear whether the Poppy & Pint or the Tennis Club want the land. The lease ends on 5th Nov 2015. Rutland Sports & Social Club is claiming that the bowls club is not keeping the terms of the lease. The present lease is supposed to be for 5 years from 31st October 2014. The Bowls Club is trying to find addresses for the shareholders so that they can be persuaded to extend the lease. They believe there should be protection of minority shareholders’ rights in company law. Several bowling greens have been lost in West Bridgford recently & this is a general trend identified by the National Bowling Association.

There were no questions or comments.

A vote was taken & it was agreed unanimously that LBCA should support the bowling club staying in Lady Bay.


The chairman thanked Tony & introduced Claire Windebank & Zoe Kilshaw from Framework Housing Association.

Proposed Development of 67-71, Trent Boulevard.
These properties used to be Abbey House Care Home for people with mental illnesses & learning difficulties, at present the 3 semi-detached houses are in multiple occupation for up to 24 people. Framework wish to purchase the 3 houses subject to planning permission for 69-71 as a supported housing service for up to 14 young people aged from 16-21. The building will have at least 2 members of staff on the premises 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Vehicle & cycle parking will be provided for staff at the rear. Residents would not have motorised vehicles. The young people will be referred from Broxtowe, Gedling & Rushcliffe. Most are leaving care including foster care. Some of the young people have had troubled backgrounds, some have left family homes because of relationship breakdowns, some have mental health problems. The young people are not substance misusers or offenders. Like all young people some may have used alcohol or cannabis to a minor extent. Some of the young people have poor life skills & need help with relationships, cooking, using washing machines & financial matters. The young people stay in the supported housing for about 6 months then will move to dispersal accommodation elsewhere. The accommodation is not secure as the young people will be developing proper routines. No. 67 will be used for dispersal accommodation for up to 5 young people – this does not require planning permission as the house is already an HMO. (House in Multiple Occupation).


Questions & comments Are the young people supported with set activities?

Most are at college, in apprenticeships or working. The young people will be assisted with life skills & encouraged to help with community activities e.g. Litter picking. There are likely to be”Nature in Mind” walks, bike rides, working on allotments. In Lincoln a similar set up has been working for a Neighbourhood in Bloom award.

Is there somewhere nearby that has a similar supported home?

Elizabeth House near the Vale Pub is similar. People objected at first but are now enthusiastic supporters. The young people have been helping to tidy up the area.

What if there are problems such as noise?

There will always be staff members on site to prevent noise etc. Neighbours will be given the telephone number to alert staff to any problems.


The chairman thanked Zoe & Claire.


Committee elections: Treasurer – James Strawbridge

Secretary – Sue Mallender

Committee members – Angie Dickinson, Lawrence Geary, Peter Hammond, Richard Mallender, Maureen Mitchell, Sarjit Singh, Sian Trafford, Alan Tiplady, Sylvia Wilkins

There is another space for a committee member but there were no volunteers this evening.

The committee was elected unanimously.


Treasurer’s Report
James presented the annual accounts. The financial situation for LBCA is quite healthy. We have more money than usual as we have £3,147 from this year’s Open Gardens. The accounts include the investment account belonging to FIELDS. The insurance premium has been paid.

The accounts were formally adopted unanimously.


The chairman introduced Sian Trafford.

Lady Bay Litter Pickers A new volunteer joined last week.. There are 10 volunteers covering the area; they choose to pick litter when they like. If you would like to volunteer please contact Sian; she will provide you with “Bag Os” & litter Pickers. Recently there has been litter on 10 Acre Field following teenage parties, a recent haul included washing up bowls and tents.



The Secretary mentioned the recent very successful Lady Bay Children’s Book Festival that took place on Saturday 10th October.

Councillor Richard Mallender give an update on the proposed foot & cycle bridge opposite Trent Lane; this is still only an idea. The developers on the Trent Basin site one side of Trent Lane are very supportive but those on the other side on the Park Yacht Club site do not want to lose any land for the supporting infrastructure. The estimated cost is about £2 million. Of the people who responded to a Lady Bay door to door survey earlier this year 60% were in favour. However, if the infrastructure is to be on this side of the river then this would mean people would be less keen.


The chairman introduced Robbie Robb.

Storytelling: Robbie is a storyteller with the Royal Storytellers based at the Theatre Royal, Nottingham. Storytelling is enhanced with dancing & singing.

Storytelling has been going on since people began communications. There are stories from all over the world but all have similar themes such as sibling rivalry & creation stories. Each Native American tribe, for instance, has a different creation story. Traditional stories have a strong moral base so that the goodies win & the baddies come to a sticky end.

A storyteller is different from an actor as storytellers do not pretend to be someone else & there are no entrances & exits. Stories are “successive moments of truth”; the listeners have to believe each section even when there are magical elements.

The Royal Storytellers are at the Theatre Royal on 29th January 2016 from 1-2pm with stories from 6-8 storytellers based on the theme of “The Good, the Bad & the Ugly”. The event is free.

Robbie then told us the story “The Fortune Teller of Baghdad” starting with a trip on the magical number 11 bus to Baghdad!


Meeting closed at 10.10 pm.