Lady Bay - West Bridgford

22 October 2014

Public meeting and AGM

Present: 54 including Councillors Steve Calvert & Richard & Sue Mallender

Apologies: Peter Hammond, Vice Chair, LBCA, Angie Dickenson & Sylvia Wilkins, Committee members, LBCA, Jane Browne of FrOTH.

The Chairman welcomed all present & informed everyone that the Lady Bay Community Fund is open for bids until Fri 31 Oct. Application forms are in Trent Boulevard Post Office & Lady Bay Pharmacy.

A couple of meetings ago a resident suggested LBCA have a page in the newsletter that people could pull out and put on their doors/windows asking for “No junk mail” Please let a committee member know if you have any ideas of wording for such an insert.

The Chairman introduced Mary Small.

Telling Tales – Nottingham Kids’ Festival of Imagination This Lady Bay based Children’s Book Festival is in its 2nd year. It took place on Sat 11 Oct. It featured storytelling, drama, animators, cartoonists & illustrators. Local businesses e.g. The Lady Bay Pub & The Poppy & Pint & community venues e.g. Lady Bay Primary School, All Hallows’ Church & Hall & the Scout Hut were used. The Scouts made £500 on refreshments. There were free, drop-in & charged-for events. Social media & other forms of marketing were used to publicise the event. More than 800 families came on the day. Tickets for the events were booked via the Theatre Royal. About 1,000 people from Lady Bay attended. The festival was for children from 3-13 though there weren’t many children over 10 in attendance. The group are planning to hold a 3rd festival on 1o Oct 2015.

There were no questions or comments.

The chairman thanked Mary & introduced Hugh McClintock of the Nottingham Cycling Pressure Group, Pedals; John Rhodes, resident of River Crescent & Trustee of Nottingham Civic Society & Nick Ebbs, Lady Bay resident & CEO of “Blueprint” the company that is developing Trent Basin through a Public Private Partnership.

Pedestrian/Cycle Bridge This talk was illustrated with a Powerpoint presentation. Nick explained that Nottingham’s waterside area is empty & derelict & is to be regenerated. An original master plan was suggested 15 years ago for residential & business use including high rise blocks & a pedestrian & cycle bridge at the end of Trent Lane. The new proposals are for 3-storey houses inspired by Dutch canal houses & a pedestrian /cycle bridge from Trent Lane to the Hook. There is no funding for the proposed bridge as yet. Hugh explained that the reasons to have a bridge include encouraging people to walk & cycle more, providing a safe route over the Trent & making a major new landmark with a suspension-type bridge. Pedals supported the original plan for a bridge. Only River Crescent & some new river side footpaths were built from the original plans. At the moment there are only some basic sketch designs for the proposed bridge. Wheelchair access needs to be considered.

A long time ago there was a plan for a foot/cycle bridge from Colwick to the Water Sports Centre but the sailing club objected & Rushcliffe Borough Council (RBC) refused planning permission. The proposed new bridge will connect commuter & leisure routes, riverside paths, Colwick woods & park, Sneinton Greenway & “The Big Track” to Beeston Lock & further on to Attenborough. It will provide access to the Trent Valley Way walking route & Sustrans Route 15, country parks & the Grantham Canal. The idea has been inspired by the Gateshead Millennium Bridge, the foot/cycle bridge over the river Foyle in Derry which links 2 polarised communities, the “Cycle Snake” in Copenhagen, York Millennium Bridge, Longhorse Bridge in Shardlow, Derbyshire, Wilford Toll Bridge & Nottingham Suspension Bridge.

The next steps are to find sources of funding; there will be a developer contribution & possible funding from Sustrans & other charities. There will be consultation with Sustrans, Nottingham City Council, Nottinghamshire County Council, RBC, Nottinghamshire Police, the Environment Agency, the Sailing Club, Friends of the Hook (FrOTH) & the Nottinghamshire Wildlife Trust. John mentioned that the bridge would provide access to the new Aldi supermarket being built at the end of Trent Lane.

Questions & comments

Jeff Jenkins: how will the pathways leading to the bridge be managed? Will there be dual cyclist/pedestrian use? Will anglers be consulted as some fishing clubs have rights to the river bank?

Hugh: it is important to educate cyclists on careful use of shared paths. The paths will also need good maintenance.

Robert Parker of FrOTH expressed concern that there will be an increase in the number of cyclists.

Hugh: the problem at the moment is not the number of cyclists but that the present path is very narrow which leads to conflict between cyclists & pedestrians. The path needs to be widened & cyclists educated.

Councillor Calvert: has been involved in the preliminary discussions about the bridge & is supportive in principle. The links to the bridge may be a concern.

Supports the idea of a bridge but as the Hook is a very natural area so modern designs would look out of place.

John: planning conditions could be placed on the design; there would be no lights on it. It would have to be carefully managed.

Nick: the Hook is very attractive so possibly a timber bridge would be more in keeping.

John suggested a design competition.

3 residents supported the bridge: it needs to be cyclist & wheelchair friendly, it will bring benefits; we want safe cycling.

Nick: the aspiration is to have a pedestrian route along the entire River Trent in Nottingham; this is the start – Trent Bridge to River Crescent.

John: separate cyclists & pedestrians; a good idea would be a cable stay bridge with pedestrians on 1 side & cyclists on the other.

Hugh: a slightly rough surface would slow down cyclists.

Councillor Richard Mallender: supports safe cycling but doesn’t want urbanisation of the Hook. We need more ideas.

Tried to cycle to Netherfield Lagoons but very poor access to Colwick Park; what will the time frame be?

John: access to the lagoons will be improved.

Hugh: Nottingham City Council want a riverside path on the north side.

Can see the value for the people on the city side but advantages are limited for people on the Rushcliffe side. Lady Bay is very quiet & pleasant – this bridge will bring more people here.

How high will the bridge be?

Nick: as high as Lady Bay Bridge.

John Osborne: Like the idea of a modern steel structure. Developers must have some idea of what will fit in as they are planning buildings on the north side.

Nick: there will be a curved access to the bridge on the Hook side. The north side is still at the early planning stage. A design competition would be good. Alan Tiplady: LBCA have fought against a road bridge in the past, a cycle & pedestrian bridge may make a road bridge less likely.

Hazel Kerr: will the bridge be used by horse riders?

How will Lady Bay residents be kept informed?

There will be the formal planning process over 2 years. There will be a funding bid. We will come back to LBCA with regular updates.

What is the price of the proposed north side properties?

Nick: aspirational housing as Nottingham city already has a lot of affordable housing. Average: £2-300,000, some more, some less. There will be advantages for Lady Bay residents: safe cycling: access to Colwick . The project will be mutually beneficial for residents on both sides of the river. The bridges to the west of Trent Bridge; the suspension bridge & Wilford toll bridge have caused no problems. This whole scheme will be one of the biggest re-generation schemes in Europe.

Councillor Calvert: there will be consultation of both Nottingham City & Nottinghamshire County highways departments.

Hazel Kerr: people complained about the building of the skate park at the time as it could bring undesirable youths to Lady Bay from the city; the skate park is now an asset to Lady Bay not a problem.

The Chairman thanked Hugh, Nick & John. The Secretary reported that there is no verbal FrOTH report; please look at the article in the newsletter. The Chairman introduced Sian Trafford

Lady Bay Litter Pickers Sian informed the meeting that there are very low numbers of people turning up on the litter picking sessions. She suggested people “adopt” sections of the area to litter pick in their own time. Litter picker sticks & “Bag-Os” will be provided. Contact Sian if you are interested.

There were no questions or comments.

The Chairman thanked Sian & introduced Councillor Richard Mallender.

Neighbourhood Watch: To celebrate Neighbourhood Watch’s 50th birthday there are some new window stickers sponsored by Compare the insurance – they feature meerkats! Please collect from the back of the hall when you leave.

Lady Bay is a low crime area except for shed burglaries & associated bike thefts. Remember to lock bikes inside the shed as well as outside. If you would like to volunteer to be a street coordinator let Richard know. 07976 775619,

Some years ago Don Read of Lady Bay designed a product; “Emergency Data Link” If emergency services need to access your house & you are unconscious you have a sticker on your window which lets the paramedics know you have an Emergency Data Link box with details of next of kin, medications, allergies etc. in the door of your fridge. Please help yourself to kits from the back of the room.

There were no questions or comments.

The chairman thanked Richard & introduced John Osborne.

Dementia Friendly Lady Bay There have been previous successful meetings to make Lady Bay dementia friendly, there is a meeting on Weds 5th Nov at CORES at 2 pm. In Britain today there are 650,000 people living with dementia, there will be 2 million in the future.

There were no questions or comments.

The chairman thanked John & introduced James Strawbridge.

Treasurer’s Report James directed people to look at the annual accounts, copies of which were distributed on seats. The insurance premium will be in the next set of accounts as it is paid in the 1st week of the new accounting year. The accounts were proposed by Lawrence Geary & seconded by Sue Mallender and were accepted unanimously. It was agreed unanimously that the signatories for the savings account should change from Richard Mallender, Sue Blount & Lawrence Geary to James Strawbridge, Sue Mallender & Lawrence Geary. 3 people signed as witnesses to this decision.

There were no questions or comments.

The chairman thanked James.

Election of LBCA Committee Nominations for Secretary and Treasurer: Sue Mallender & James Strawbridge. Nominations for committee: Angie Dickinson, John Finney, Lawrence Geary, Peter Hammond, Richard Mallender, Maureen Mitchell, Sarjit Singh, Alan Tiplady, Sian Trafford, Sylvia Wilkins. These were all elected unanimously. Brenda Baxter, Fiona Boyd & Clare Kay are committee members representing Lady Bay Arts, Lady Bay Planters & FIELDS respectively.

Any Other Business Councillor Richard Mallender informed people that there was a new method of electoral registration where each person is responsible for registering rather than 1 person for the whole household. This is to prevent electoral fraud. Register to vote at: tovote/ or call 0115 981 9911.Lady Bay Ward boundaries have changed so that the east side of Adbolton Grove, the last 3 houses at the Adbolton end of Trent Boulevard, Moore Close & Carlight Gardens are now in the ward. Greenacres is in the adjoining Gamston North. The no. of RBC councillors will be reduced from 50 to 44.

Jeff Jenkins mentioned that the 20 mph road markings are wearing away & need replacing.

Councillor Calvert stated that there will be 20mph zones around schools & in some areas of W. Bridgford.

Councillor Richard Mallender said that he would bring up the matter of the worn markings with the W. Bridgford Local Area Forum Traffic & transport group.

The Chairman introduced our last speaker; Rex Rowe.

The Original Master Baker Rex used to live on Lady Bay Road. He is now 81. His father was an actor & his grandfather a master baker. Rex’s father had wicker baskets full of props & costumes in the attic. They had a black leaded range where one winter a friendly house cricket lived. He attended Lady Bay School & had the cane for climbing over the bike shed into the playground. On Trent Boulevard there was a newsagent, a haberdashery shop, a butcher & a greengrocery shop, there were 2 shops next to Lady Bay School. In the house that became the Lady Bay Pub lived a man called Claude Rainer who had 2 bull dogs. The Rev. Watson was the vicar of Lady Bay church & also ran the Lady Bay scouts. As a child Rex would swing across the Dyke on the Hook to reach the river. A man with a wooden leg ran a ferry across the Trent from Lady Bay to the pleasure park on the north bank; the ferry took bikes. The W. Bridgford Royal British legion had a Manor branch where M & S is now on Albert Road. The family doctor was Dr McClenan on Albert Road. On Empire Day there were Cossacks in Bridgford Park.

Rex lived in Lady Bay during WWII; The Canadian air force was based at Langar. There were spitfires at Gamston Airfield that could be seen from Adbolton lane. The Home Guard trained in Bridgford Park. Children collected paper and were given “ranks” depending on how much they collected; from private to Field Marshal. Rex’s mother was in the Women’s Voluntary Service (WVS) & would stand by the bank on Trent Bridge collecting for them. Rex’s father’s costumes & props were given to the WVS to raise funds. Rex’s mother was also an evacuee officer. W. Bridgford was badly bombed due to the proximity of a gun factory on Meadow Lane. In an air raid the Co-op on the north side of Trent Boulevard was bombed & the houses next to the greengrocer’s. Children were evacuated here from London but returned home after these air raids. In WWII Rex’s brother was a Chief Petty Officer & once brought home an amazing gift - a pineapple. After the floods in 1947 everyone had to disinfect their cellar when the water receded with bright pink disinfectant.

Rex has worked for 22 small bakers in Nottingham including 6 in W. Bridgford. There were 102 small bakeries in Nottingham – now there are none. Rex’s 1st proper job was at May Hawksley’s, a small bakery in South Road, here he made the mistake of using 10 lb of baking powder instead of 10 ounces – the resulting cake looked like something from Quatermass! He also worked at Howard’s Bakery on Central Avenue & Watson’s Bakery. The latter supplied slab cakes for M & S but 1 year M & S said that the cakes were of poor quality & pulled the contract this was a disaster for the bakery, which went out of business. Rex also worked for Mason’s Bakery in the Meadows. Atkin’s Bakery on Trent Boulevard was on the corner of Gertrude Road; you can still see the “Hovis” sign on what is now the N & S Stores. At Clarke’s bakery there was a 230 year old oven which was used in rotation when it was very hot for bread then sweet dough, custards, pastries, macaroons & finally meringues.

Rex is now the only baker who still makes Harvest Festival loaves for his local church. A traditional harvest loaf always has 2 mice on it. “Rexipes” include ideas for Xmas leftovers; “Nelson Square” - a post war cake popular with children in the 1950s where stale bread & cakes are mixed with water, dried fruit, sugar & spices & baked in a pastry case; truffles made from left over cakes, marzipan cut out & cooked to make macaroons. Rex’s tip: use strong flour in all recipes; this stops cherries from sinking to the bottom in cherry cake.

Rex works for the Nottingham Cardiac Support Group charity & visits Lady Bay Open Gardens every year.

Questions & Comments.

Jeff Jenkins: What fuel was used in the very old oven?

Wood or coke then converted to electricity.


Meeting closed 22:05